tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post2078763931992586498..comments2008-06-25T23:36:13.045-05:00Mrs. Dubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10290710205666831891noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-2837468304193237622008-06-25T23:36:00.000-05:002008-06-25T23:36:00.000-05:00this might sound silly, but it's worth a thought:<BR/>Interesting facts<BR/><BR/>(A) The number of physicians in the U.S.<BR/>is 700,000<BR/><BR/>(B) Accidental deaths caused by<BR/>Physicians per year are 120,000.<BR/><BR/>(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.<BR/><BR/>Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of<BR/>Health Human Services.<BR/><BR/>Now think about this:<BR/><BR/>Guns:<BR/><BR/>(A) The number of gun owners in the<BR/>U.S.<BR/>is 80,000,000.<BR/><BR/>(Yes, that's 80 million..)<BR/><BR/>(B) The number of accidental gun deaths<BR/>? per year, all age groups, is 1,500. <BR/>(C ) The number of accidental deaths<BR/>per gun owner is .000188. <BR/>Statistics courtesy of FBI<BR/><BR/>So, statistically, doctors are<BR/>approximately<BR/>9,000 times more dangerous than gun<BR/>owners.<BR/><BR/>Remember, 'Guns don't kill people,<BR/>doctors do.'<BR/><BR/>FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,<BR/><BR/>BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE<BR/>DOCTOR.<BR/><BR/>Please alert your friends to this<BR/>alarming threat.<BR/><BR/>We must ban doctors before this gets<BR/>completely out of hand!!!!!Kristinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16778213912574888182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-82902082859485510082008-06-05T16:05:00.000-05:002008-06-05T16:05:00.000-05:00Anti-pets, anti-hunting, anti-guns . . . got anything against baseball and apple pie?<BR/><BR/>And trust me, even if you never have a toy gun in the house, young boys will shoot each other with their fingers!Lauriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04943058750557849289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-67908081078965863202008-06-05T10:52:00.000-05:002008-06-05T10:52:00.000-05:00i wish i could stop driving.mrs. rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16487077462904179112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-51016987902676726292008-06-05T00:19:00.000-05:002008-06-05T00:19:00.000-05:00I hate guns in general (or at least I always have, up til now), but I own one.<BR/><BR/>My husband is gone for the summer and my neighborhood is fraught with break-ins. Any one of the rough-looking men wandering past my house on their way to the bus stop could watch my doings and figure out that I'm alone.<BR/><BR/>A gun gives me SOMETHING. Some little bit of defense in a situation where I would otherwise be powerless. I'm careful with it, have learned how to handle it, and respect it for the powerful, dangerous thing it is, and I'm glad to have it.<BR/><BR/>They aren't for everyone, no. There are no children in my house - things would be different if there were. But for me, for right now, I feel like the shotgun is filling a serious need.Fighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01222439237737873231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-39155083463981392912008-06-04T15:12:00.000-05:002008-06-04T15:12:00.000-05:00So, it's not Tuesday any longer, forgive me. I wasn't planning on commenting on this at all because<BR/>I have many mixed feelings on the topic. <BR/><BR/>But, I can tell you that yesterday, when I received a call from my home alarm company saying there may have been a break in at my home, I was really hoping that I had a gun gun on me to pistol whip anyone who dared to break into my house. Or shoot them in the foot or something. Luckily, no one broke in, our alarm just wigged out, but, I will admit, waiting outside my house once I frantically got there, I was concered for my safety--what if there WAS someone in my house? So, anyways, still conflicted, yes, but, it was a time in which I wished I had a handgun or something like that. But, I think that's OK. <BR/><BR/>And yes, the Simpson sisters are way too over exposed. :)The Shabby Princesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08572623388995262210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-84831681485432065132008-06-04T14:08:00.000-05:002008-06-04T14:08:00.000-05:00thanks for the "counsel" mr. nra<BR/><BR/>left wing media brainwashing me? i don't think so. do some research.<BR/><BR/>cars are necessary. guns are not.Leishahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13292545230226607243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-23333254631653207492008-06-04T12:29:00.000-05:002008-06-04T12:29:00.000-05:00they scare me a great deal. i don't want one and i make robby keep his that isn't loaded in the safe that i don't even know the combo to. i'm glad he knows how to use it, should he ever need to, and that i don't have to know how or deal with it at all.melmckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14877635577974861997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-92040415974826979292008-06-04T10:04:00.000-05:002008-06-04T10:04:00.000-05:00as mentioned in a previous post... not a big gun fan here. i am a big fan of my husband though, so for now, there's two guns (for hunting) in my home. don't think i'm not plotting for ways to get them out of my home though. ;) i personally don't consider myself "anti-guns", i don't really care if responsible people have them... i just think there should be slightly more extreme measures taken to get a gun. more extensive background checks (or background checks PERIOD). and maybe it's cause i'm a canadian, but i don't really get the whole "right to bear arms" obsession. i understand that it was a critical aspect of the founding of this country, and certainly the military "needs" them... but the average citizen who throws around fanatical phrases about "the right to bear arms" like they're going to protect themselves from the evil gov't... i just don't really get that.<BR/><BR/>also, i know we diverge here, but i'm all about a big dog for protection. having a dog around growing up, really did make me feel generally more secure in my home than i would have otherwise. just a plug for the pro-pet people. :)janayahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10447209825843891536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-40600704552890579742008-06-04T09:40:00.000-05:002008-06-04T09:40:00.000-05:00i'm not crazy about guns either....but i can see where they have saved lives. <BR/><BR/>i do no think children should have TOY GUNS...i am totally against that!!! <BR/><BR/><BR/>MerrianneMerrianne &amp; Spencerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00543478318567276143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-69587301119298136822008-06-04T05:40:00.000-05:002008-06-04T05:40:00.000-05:00I have mixed feelings. I learned to shoot - not hunt, shoot, I have issues with hunting too - years ago in college and loved it. To me, it's similar to archery or other precision skills. You practice and get better and that's cool.<BR/><BR/>Sure, people kill people, but a dude on a college campus with a hatchet can't generally kill 33 people in a matter of minutes before someone stops him.<BR/><BR/>I know of a lot of cases - some personally - where a gun in the home of what <B>I</B> consider to be a responsible gun owner got into the hands of a child and the child died. I know of very few cases - none personally - where someone was able to use a gun in his/her home to thwart a criminal. I also know of a few cases - personally - where a gun in the house which was supposed to be used for self protection was turned around and used on the home owner. <BR/><BR/>My dad had a gun when I was growing up. I believe he took precautions to keep it away from us, and today I'd bet that he'd say we didn't even know it was there. But the truth is, my brother and I both knew where it was stored and got it out to look at it occasionally when we knew our parents weren't watching. We also knew where the ammunition was kept - a completely different place, but it wouldn't have taken very much for one of us to put two and two together, given a series of particularly poor judgments - likes of which we all know that teenagers are capable of making.<BR/><BR/>I still love to shoot and my husband is ex-military and feels the same, but I don't believe in guns for home protection and refuse to have a gun in the house. Our deal (or maybe more aptly: my ultimatum) is that if he really wants to own a gun, that's fine, but he'll need to rent a locker at a shooting range to keep it in because we won't be leaving it here.NGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14129806787655566395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-13217638401156610752008-06-03T23:54:00.000-05:002008-06-03T23:54:00.000-05:00INTERESTING BLOG ADS! SEE BELOW<BR/><BR/>concealed carry<BR/>In a gunfight those who train, win. Dont bet your life on anything else <BR/>www.FrontSight.com <BR/>Federal Firearm License<BR/>How To Get Federal Firearms License Only $19.49 & 100% Guaranteed! <BR/><BR/>concealed carry<BR/>In a gunfight those who train, win. Dont bet your life on anything else <BR/>www.FrontSight.com <BR/>Have a blog? 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(I've personally covered tragic news stories where this was true.) And since guns are optional - unlike other potentially dangerous but necessary items - I'm not going to take that chance. As you know I don't hunt, I'm not worried about an impending Armageddon, and I'm not a war buff, so there's no need for a gun in my house.<BR/><BR/>That doesn't mean I won't educate my children about the dangers of guns; I'm just not going to own one.Mrs. Dubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10290710205666831891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-30103305963980158242008-06-03T20:43:00.000-05:002008-06-03T20:43:00.000-05:00It's me. The NRA member referenced above. Most of you are so misled. The left wing media has done it's job wonderfully and soon Hilary/Obama will be elected and guns will once again come under serious attack. From day 1, this country was built on private gun ownership. The Declaration of Independence, US Constitution, and countless other important documents would not exist without guns. My forefathers fought for my freedom using guns. I hope the time doesn't come, but I can imagine it's not far distant, when I will be asked to do the same. I plan to be ready.<BR/><BR/>Have you seen Red Dawn? Go Wolverines!<BR/><BR/>I would counsel all of you to do some research on gun accidents, fatalities, injuries, etc. There are thousands more people injured everyday in car accidents than with a firearm. I guess you should all stop driving. Have you taught your children to be responsible with your car keys? I hope you keep them in a lock safe, out of reach, and far from that death trap in your garage.Jamie's Husbandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-35492414731320879112008-06-03T19:20:00.000-05:002008-06-03T19:20:00.000-05:00(p.s. I didn't have time to read the comments earlier and I just want to say to the woman who was brutally raped...If a gun makes you feel better, more power to you! I'm amazed you survived such a horrible trauma and I would be going out in full body armor with signs saying "touch me you die!" if I went out at all. I'm sorry that happened to you...)Leishahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13292545230226607243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-80192156917693699932008-06-03T19:01:00.000-05:002008-06-03T19:01:00.000-05:00Can't we all get along????<BR/><BR/>We need to respect each others' personal right (or not) to bear arms without judging each other as red neck NRA's or left wing wackos.<BR/><BR/>As for me, when times get tough, and they will, you'll be knocking on my door, wanting protection (or meat_, but oh, wait... there will be a PET in my home who will bark, wag his tail and may have shed a hair or two. Shucks!! You'll turn and run. :)Pistol Packin' Mamanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-36357249846166538582008-06-03T18:15:00.000-05:002008-06-03T18:15:00.000-05:00Amen. That was simply poetic.go boo boohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18127610146319166412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-77234434609064602012008-06-03T17:58:00.000-05:002008-06-03T17:58:00.000-05:00I don't like guns. Yes, I grew up with them in our home, and it was no big deal. My sisters have commented and defended the guns in their homes, and I have NO problem with it. But my hubs isn't into guns, so we most likely will never own one. He feels much more comfortable with a golf club... so that's the weapon of choice under our bed. Serious.<BR/>I also think boys are crazier and more curious about guns, so having guns around my boys scares me a little. My sisters have lots of girls (and one boy), and I really think that makes a difference. <BR/>And I'm just hoping that I can trade Jamie homemade wheat bread for fresh meat (in reference to what she said in last week's hunting HTT) if and when we need to use our year's supply. ;)Katehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16037740810373321189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-55495616414754174532008-06-03T14:28:00.000-05:002008-06-03T14:28:00.000-05:00Luckily I have girls so the play guns won't be as much of an issue . . . But even toy guns bother me. Same with shooting video/computer games like Mondo Mega Death VII.emily&amp;davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07296644037595085699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-13019109170581601502008-06-03T14:10:00.000-05:002008-06-03T14:10:00.000-05:00i'm not for or against them... but i will never have one in my house :)Angyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17066757617844945309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-25734738950241078552008-06-03T13:06:00.000-05:002008-06-03T13:06:00.000-05:00We have guns in our house and I wouldn't have it any other way! My husband and I love to shoot guns and we will teach all of our children how to use guns. Maybe the statistics show that a gun in your house doesn't mean it will save your life, and quite possibly could take your life but my feelings are unchanged. I personally feel better knowing I have a gun and I'm not afraid to use it!doezie10http://www.blogger.com/profile/13431291035672943348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-88351109802094191292008-06-03T12:55:00.000-05:002008-06-03T12:55:00.000-05:00I am going to have to disagree with you yet again, Mrs. Dub. Pets? Hunting? Now this! :) My husband has guns and is a very proud card-carrying member of the NRA.<BR/><BR/>I so agree with Sara (big surprise since she is my sis). You HAVE to teach your kids about guns and about gun safety. Then there isn't the mystery. My little girls have gone shooting with their dad. They know that the guns exist in our house and they are allowed to see them if they ask AND are with an adult. It isn't some mysterious thing. (However they don't ask to see them because they could care less about them.) Kids have to learn to be responsible with guns -- just like kitchen knives and prescription medications. I am sure that some will disagree, but I think that these things can all be put in the same category. If used improperly and irresponsibly, then they are lethal. If used correctly, then there are great benefits.<BR/><BR/>My husbands guns are not loaded and are difficult to reach, but trust me...it would be less than 5 seconds to have a loaded gun ready if an intruder came. All that the media prints is about the gun accidents and shootings. How often do you hear about people defending themselves with a gun? NEVER! Oh...so it doesn't happen? Bologna! It happens very often, but doesn't get the fame and glory that the tragedies do!<BR/><BR/>Yes, guns can kill people. But so can kitchen knives, ropes, pills, yard tools, and a variety of other things. Are you going to have those things in your home?<BR/><BR/>I could just keep going...Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-24489741109010758562008-06-03T12:42:00.000-05:002008-06-03T12:42:00.000-05:00I agree with Nettie and Carrie on this one. If we educate ourselves, we shouldn't be afraid of guns; we should be afraid of violent criminals and negligent gun owners. I grew up with guns in the house. My family practiced target shooting all the time on our family ranch, or in the desert. I never handled the guns at home, and my dad locked them in a huge, fireproof safe. Only he knew the combination. <BR/><BR/>My husband did not grow up around guns. I seriously doubt we will ever have a gun in our house.Strings of Elegancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09628770440183575602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-91989709911864882662008-06-03T12:26:00.000-05:002008-06-03T12:26:00.000-05:00The alarmists among society only add to the problem. Guns will always exist so we might as all be well-informed about them. Good parenting and responsibility are what prevents accidents and tragedies. It seems to me that I have heard about many more suicides by OD or hanging or inhalation of toxic fumes from a combination of household chemicals (the latest suicide trend in Japan) than by gunshot, at least among young people. Kids should know about guns and how to respect them, whether they have one in their own house or not. If you're a total gun-a-phobe and pass on this sentiment to your kids, they will only be all the more curious when they're at a friend's house and see a real one for the first time.sarahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16722929618690197732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-77321190676124197762008-06-03T12:01:00.000-05:002008-06-03T12:01:00.000-05:00I grew up with guns. I've gone shooting at targets with my brothers. I dated a State Trooper and hunters, my Dad collects beautiful guns (mostly antiques), my husband collects guns...<BR/><BR/>But I agree with you.<BR/><BR/>Guns don't necessarily "scare" me, but I've seen so many specials on tv where children have been trained on how to deal with guns and not to touch them, and then the FIRST thing they do is go for it.<BR/><BR/>It isn't worth the risk to me. My parents raised 6 children with guns on display in an unlocked case (with the bullets in a drawer at the bottom of the case) and there was never even one accident or problem.<BR/><BR/>However, I'm not willing to take the risk, however minimal it may be, with my own children.<BR/><BR/>There are not a lot of second chances with gunshot wounds.<BR/><BR/>The guns my husband has have trigger locks on them, the safety turned on, inside cases (that are locked) and then I wrapped the cases in towels and duct taped them and put them on the highest shelf in our closet (which locks).<BR/><BR/>It sounds extreme, but I did all of that after I saw a special on the number of children killed accidentally with guns.<BR/><BR/>Plus, do I really want a loaded gun around me when my husband ticks me off? No. (Um, that was a joke....)<BR/><BR/>But, I do watch a lot of real-life murder mystery shows and do you even know how many spouses use the excuse of "cleaning" a gun or shooting an "intruder" as a way of covering the murder of their spouse?Leishahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13292545230226607243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19637244.post-51803950786187241252008-06-03T11:35:00.000-05:002008-06-03T11:35:00.000-05:00As all the comments have demonstrated, everyone's opinion is naturally colored by their personal experience. Mrs. Dub and I grew up in a household with no guns, and we survived living in a couple of sketchy neighborhoods without needing one. Growing up, we didn't know anyone who successfully defended themself against an intruder with a gun, but we did know a family in our ward who lost a son when he was goofing off with a gun (in front of other kids). And like steph referenced, I've known two gun-inflicted suicides, both at BYU.<BR/><BR/>But if I'd had an experience as traumatic as anonymous', I would probably feel very differently. I can understand why she needed that sense of protection in order to deal with what happened to her. <BR/><BR/>So my real problem is not guns but the glamorization of guns. That same sense of "empowerment by gun" that was therapeutic for anonymous unfortunately also causes school shootings, etc. I also have a problem with idiots owning guns, like there should be some sort of idiot background check in addition to the criminal and psychological ones (50 fender benders on your record? Prone to participating in get rich quick schemes? Appeared as a guest on Jerry Springer? Sorry, no gun for you.) but I've been told the Constitution doesn't distinguish on such a basis.ginnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06137524530679547570noreply@blogger.com